‘This is what accountability is all about’: Former NYPD chief of detectives

Former NYPD Chief of Detectives Bob Boyce and Denver Police Department veteran and co-founder of the Center for Policing Equity Dr. Tracie Keesee discuss the Derek Chauvin guilty verdict.
6:40 | 04/21/21

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Joining us now with more reaction delivered Asia's doctor Traci kissing at 25 year veteran of the Denver Police Department. And co-founder of the center for policing equity along with mild boys. Former NYPD chief of detectives of the ABC news contributor. Bubbles start with you who is your reaction to the verdict. Why it was a just verdict and look at chief Aaron Donald video those responsible some release several moments with the trial. When he said at a peaceful pro law enforcement this is not our values he's not our ethics and he walked away from him and so was our training either. So bad that up and off the combat video was just too compelling. That the jury was never goes through a steady defense agree when you saw what happened there. So I think it's a good day I'm hoping for a safe my trip everybody tonight. In the protest ended march is all these things so we can come together go better place. And doctor choosing the same question I've been asking everybody tonight as a black woman who worked for decades and law enforcement. You're reaction to the verdict. Com you don't mind was I think what you heard and weigh your previous interviews and I was holding my breath. We had been here before. And so I was surprised when how quickly the verdict came but I have to you agree. Bob that you know. Chief are got to be an incredible job of articulating. What's he sort of ethics are of law enforcement and public safety and how should you. Be engaging with community. Armed we'll see we'll see what this does and what this means as we move forward. But I can I was senior surprise he'd say I was relieved. Mike sound like everyone else because I there was a part of me that was a social or. The folks lewd really see. We'll read what I guess I almost a year ago and that is a homicide that occurred in broad daylight. And doctor kissing scene with different all of the group that you represent now is trying to increase trust. Between police and minority communities what's the biggest problem in trying to build up that kind of trusted. And how do you start to solve that problem. Well I would say there's probably a new number problems so it's not just one when you talk about trust it's one how you define that. And what are we expecting we say we want to trusting relationship. And really the hurdle in doing now is the historical mistrust that is happening has occurred in some you know some states is continues. And so it is really historically how do you begin to you. Spin away in which people who knew what you say. And that you should leave do you want to have changed and when that means that you won't have changed that means not just talking about it this being about it. That's how do you know how do you think about things differently. I'm what is public safety need houses defied. How do you understand it and how do you understand others are experiencing yet so the biggest hurdle one of them is just a historical mistrust. And how do you begin to move forward riff. Folks who don't want to come to the team won't have this conversation because they're they're exhausted. Silly is a lot of that work. And she poisoned during closing arguments the prosecution emphasized that policing is a noble profession. And then officers show than it was a now why or why you feel that was so important to make that distinction. And in this case and going forward and other. Prosecuted purely says it could clearly said this wasn't policing this was murder and it wasn't policing. Being a 35 year veteran and I worry about Traci Hughes Kennedy a white PD retraining all of our offices in 2014 in the aftermath of the corner of our car. So we've fee escalation training all these things. We walked away from this back then I know us process is that something you've got us happy fingers over overnight you have to keep going forward with it. I stopping long necked construe the restraints on all these things it needs to be a net national standards across the board to get this time it's not an easy process. Hopefully this is a step forward. In that process and and moving forward and more transparent. More communication all these things we have to teach and have to demand accountability. About sailing steer but the question is really for both of you is all the celebrations from the boy's family and many others across the country. Where police departments in the communities they serve go from here. And do you expect to see any major changes anytime soon. I do crises in Manila slow little as eleven months have been just a worst eleven months in and that that I seeded American law enforcement it's been rough nobody wants to go through this anymore. We want we want complete transparency we want change we want to work well with the community partners and we want to be put put out broad standard. That this is a new doing this is a new day. And we're not going to do this anymore so this is what accountability is all about. And I see something underfoot right now that really encouraging. Is that other offices are trained to step in and stop. Upon fellow officers from from stepping over that line that has happened we should be and we should renew his long Congo would doing it now. I was taught in 93 when it became a police officer stop your partner from going forward we can do to protect him. From that problem and attacked a prison or where you're dealing with in the street. That's an individual accountability has to happen. Doctor QZ plus same questions you in the final question. Do see that change coming soon. Some its arm away. But there's still a lot of work to be done anything and Bob is just outlined some of the things that need to happen and currently to begin to reduce some of the harms us happening. But he doesn't get in the way and the real work that needs to be done. And as you think about you know not just what you do sees me with. You know T escalation training in those types of things are real questions on the table is what is the role of Juan forced into that what does it mean how public safety. And what does that look what can you find a lot of cities throughout the country that was in the fundamental questions on the team right now. What is the role for law enforcement and is there is more from law enforcement and yourself what does it look like but really it is community center in community driven. Mean certainly talk about what public safety means to them and what it means so again the work has not ended it's never ended. And there's still much more to June but there's absolutely things we can be doing right now. Doctor Traci dizzying. Rocker voice thank you both for your time appreciate your analysis.

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