Transcript for Pope Francis embracing gay Catholics?
pope Francis continues to shake things up in the catholic which much. Yesterday apparently he was talking to a gay man in Chile and told him that you are gay it doesn't matter and god loves you like this. Will catholics follow his who am I to judge stance? I love this so much. This is the difference between tolerance and acceptance which are very different. This is not -- I'm not going to judge you. This is god loves you. For me -- or so many people have come out. I'm not gay. I'm not announcing anything today. It's like an iceberg, by the time they've spoken it to someone, anyone, they've often gone through that journey. To have this major figure, the utmost figure of the catholic church say not only I won't judge you but god loves you, this is like rainbows for days for me. This is the most beautiful thing. My brother's gay and my parents battled religion, the one reason they struggled accepting him at first. He's been very good about this. You know, this same thing happened when he said, listen, I'm not going to judge you for being a divorced person. God is -- we have other things to deal with. So he's been really sort of encompassing. Do you think this is going to start another riot as some of his earlier conversations with him have? I think it's possible. I think they know who this pope is by now but the Vatican has already come out and said we're not commenting on this because this was a private conversation. So the catholic church still has a long way to go. The catholic church doctrine still opposing gay marriage, still opposes divorce, aborpgs but my god, I think it's incredible that this pope is coming forward and saying at least privately god loves you. The thing I like about him is he's intelligent and he knows that being gay is not a choice, that it is something you are or you are not. As the kids say, this pope is dope. He is. This pope is dope. But I do have to add, what she just said, I don't think the doctrine is going to change, not in my lifetime anyway it won't. But we know that it has changed at times because at one point, you know, catholic priests were able to get married. Remember? So things do change. Now, at a snail's pace, yes, but it is nice to see someone is inclusive or trying to be as inclusive as Jesus was supposed to be. Yeah. That's the question, what would Jesus do. Jesus would love everyone. It's notable that this conversation happened in private with a man who was abused by a catholic priest and part of the reason why he said I accept you and love you as you are is because I guess in media where the man was from in south America they were using the fact that he's gay against him in this debate about pedophilia within the catholic church. I think it's beautiful and wonderful, this pope says a lot of stuff off the record though. He's also said he doesn't believe in hell and purgatory. For me it's a great step, it is, but when we're talking about church doctrine, I still think -- I don't know if it's going to change the young gay individual going to church, how they feel in the church, and that's the step forward I think a lot of us would like to see but I think it was absolute -- I actually think -- I'm sorry, baby. I actually think it may because if you know that the head of the church, the pope, a guy who -- the last guy you ever expect to hear say, listen, I accept you as you are, I think it gives people -- I know that it did for friends of mine who were divorced and couldn't really go accept the sacrament, couldn't get communion, and to have him say, listen, this is not what we should be fighting about, we should be accepting because we know in this world this does happen. So I think it made them feel better so I think knowing that this pope, whether he says it out loud or says it in private because he's not been -- he's not hidden it. It's not the first time he's sort of done it so it's exciting but who knows what will happen but I'm going to be cautiously optimistic that stuff might be changed.
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