Transcript for What a 2nd whistleblower means for impeachment inquiry
requested by those committees. More with Dan Abrams. Let's talk first about the significance of this second whistle-blower, and now there may be even more. It depends how you view the first one. Last week we talked about this. I said I didn't think the first whistle-blower was that important anymore. Now that the president is admitting in effect that he is putting pressure on Ukraine, has been, et cetera, and you've got those text messages between the diplomats, those said you don't need the first whistle-blower. If that's true the second whistle-blower doesn't matter that much. If however you're one of those people who said, wait a sec, I can't rely on the first whistle-blower because it's coming from secondhand information then the second whistle-blower should be very important to you. And these new whistle-blowers could be giving information on other parts of the story like locking down the phone calls. That's the critical question. If one of these whistle-blowers can offer up any sort of evidence that the reason particular conversations were locked up were because they were embarrassing as opposed to national security, that's a violation of the law so it's tough to prove you did it for political reasons or because it's embarrassing, but if you've got witnesses who can come forward and say that that's Gordon sondland, a key witness. What was he doing in these conversations? He's the ambassador to the European union. Why is he getting so involved in the hands on and what's happening in Ukraine? Why is he the guy who is relaying the messages from Rudy Giuliani and from the white house with regard to what the plan should be in Ukraine and, remember, he's one of the people who is on these text messages talking about how to deal with the president of Ukraine, how to -- what sounded like a deal to say, well, we're going to hold off on meeting until the president gets what he wants. And a political appointee, million dollar donor to the president. That part doesn't bother me as much. A lot of ambassadors end up being appointees. Why was he so involved here? Thanks. Now to that breaking news
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