Transcript for Judge Orders Release of 'Making a Murderer' Subject Brendan Dassey
Back here, time for our big board. Our team of insiders standing by live for more on this morning's top stories. We've got our legal team with us, we got sunny, sunny is here, Dan is here. So we'll talk about legal issues. All right, so let's start with that new twist in the "Making a murderer" case. A federal judge is ordering that Brendan dassey be released from prison after he and his uncle Steven Avery were found guilty of murder nearly a decade ago. Now, this has taken some time for this. Why is he being released now? His conviction was overturned in August basically the judge at the time said I'll effectively give 90 days because the prosecution can still appeal this ruling. The prosecution did appeal. But at this point the judge is basically saying, look, I'm not going to keep him in there forever considering the ruling that I issued. Now, prosecutors are now effectively saying, well wooshgs ale's go file an emergency appeal to try to make sure he stays behind bars. I think it's unlikely that they're going to get that. And as a result I think it's likely that dassey will be released in the next couple of weeks but sounds like prosecu prosecutors are also going to retry him so it's possible that he could get convicted again although I think that's unlikely based on the lack of evidence. With the possibility of dassey getting out, what is the latest on his uncle's case? Totally separate case, right. The case against Brendan dassey in my view was always weak. The case against Steven Avery is a totally different story. From the defense's perspective they want to retest the blood to see if maybe it was planted. They want to be able to do a type of testing called carbon testing which can maybe date the blood. I don't think that's going to make much of a difference. Their lawyer thinks it will. Their lawyer has been saying again and again, sorry, Steven Avery's lawyer is saying again and again he will eventually be exonerated. I think it will be very difficult. Before we weigh in on your case what do you think on this, sunny. I think it's interesting we're even talking about this case because of the documentary and so it leads to that notion of transparency. We don't have cameras in a lot of courtrooms, not even inside the supreme court and I think this case sort of highlights the fact that we need those cameras in courtrooms and need those in the supreme court because I think it uncovers a lot of things. I mean look at the confession in this case. This confession was beyond the pale but we only know about it because of the cameras That's it. Good point. I love having our legal team here. Tag team. This is awesome. Why don't we do this every day. I love when I don't need advice. All right. Now up next we need you both for this too. They say diamonds are forever but maybe not for this one Manhattan couple. "The New York post" reports a man is suing his ex-fiancee over a $125,000 engagement ring after their wedding was canceled at the last minute and, sunny, oh, man. That's a lot of money. Neither one will comment on the case but could the court make her return the ring? The court could, Michael. You know what's interesting. This is the question that I get the most from our viewers, I get this question almost every week. Who gets the ring? Most states don't want to be involved in matters of the heart so most states say, you know what, I don't care who is at fault bottom line is if the engagement is broken, give the ring back. Those states are New York, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Kansas, new Jersey, New Mexico and Wisconsin. But there are a couple of states that say, I do want to get involved. Those states are California, Texas, they say, you know what, if you are the dumper, the dumpee gets to keep the ring. The dumpee. How do people protect themselves when engaged? You know what I'll tell my son, robin, I'll say give her my ring, because family heirlooms are protected so she dumps you, she breaks that engagement off you get the ring back. The other thing I'll advise him, dent propose on a holiday. If you propose on Christmas or Hanukkah, many courts say that was a gift that wasn't part of the engagement and you get to keep it. That's a lot of work, sunny. Sorry. A question of whether it's a conditional gift or not. Is it conditioned upon us getting married as opposed to on a holiday where you basically said it could have been a Christmas gift. This is a question for everybody. We know what they say legally but what about just social etiquette. Do you give the ring back? You know what, you dump me, I'm not giving the ring back. But look at Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey gets to keep her ring. It's only damages. Basically to me the only reason you keep it is damages to say, you know what, I was so wronged and I'd be entitled to X amount of dollars. Instead I'll take this bling and I'll go home. Sunny went to the what would Mariah do defense. Dan, if you break up with someone you got to suck it up. $125,000 damages clause. Basically said you break up with me that's how much this is costing you. No mas. Coming up in two minutes
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