Transcript for Justin Bieber's pastor reveals how he overcame being judged in new book
deeper? ? Stars like Justin Bieber. Not your average celebrity. Not a rock star. And heaven knows, your granddaddy's preacher he's not. Carl Lentz, pastor of hillsong of New York City. His congregation loves him. We thank you for what you're going to do in Jesus' name. Amen. But music and production would make a rock band blush, the church draws thousands to multiple services every Sunday. I've heard it described as the hipster church. You have to have ripped jeans to come here. It is come as you are. That god will never leave you like that. But don't let the big city swagger mislead you. Hillsong is old school, part of the church base in the Sydney, Australia with campuses across the world. There is a hip modern day spirit to it. But this is a church that has taken a position on homosexuality, on positions that seem like a new modern hip environment. I think we're the most overrated hip church ever. Like we don't believe the bib has ever needed a remix. We don't believe it needed an update. We don't believe we can change what god has always said. People ask us, are you going to evolve in your views? Jesus has always said who he says he is. The gospel is who he says he is. We can't change the bible. It is what is god's opinion. Our job is to obey that and stay true to that. Tonight we went behind the scenes for a Sunday service. When you look out and see most people, what do you think? You know me. I'm a crier. It is just an overwhelming honor that people would come to our church at all. These are people who trust with you their lives. Yeah. That's a heavy thing. That trust is what attracts everybody to Carl. Including celebrities like Justin Bieber. You baptized Justin Bieber in a bath tub? Yeah. As he friend of ours. He loves the lord with all his heart. There was a night where he wanted to renew his faith and get bam tiesed again. We couldn't find anyone in new York. Last second I called Tyson who had just played the Miami heat. And I said bro, can we use your pool? He is like, the pool is closed but you can use my bathtub. It's pretty big. Bring him over. And we did. It was one of the most powerful things I've been a part of. But the power has drawn kept civil. As Lentz' influence has soared, it has caused some people to question him. Is his affiliation with the church to blame? This summer after canceling his world tour, beeieber said I want my career to be sustainable but also my mind, heart and soul to be sustainable. I'll a pastor. He told me what he was going to do. He spoke about on it his own behalf of I like it when people make decisions that are for their soul first. Career, money, stature second. We first talked to pastor Lentz in 2014. I've been with pastors who don't know anyone outside the door. People say hey, Carl, and you stop. I don't look at it as a giant metropolis as much as our local Parrish. You are who you are. Everybody on our -- I love people. Tell me what's up. I really want to have the same heart for people that Jesus did. Which is to not see what everybody else saw but try to dig a little bit deeper. I feel like that's how I was reached. I feel like there were people who looked over all the stuff I had going on and saw stuff I didn't see. The world has changed a lot in three years. Since 2014, there's been a 5% decrease of Americans other identify themselves as Christians. The nation is more divided. And some would like him to take a stand. Issues like race I, class, drug abuse, he dives into in his new and first book, own the moment. You talk about the moment, the one Sunday where you talked about black lives matter. Yeah. It was a big Sunday for us. We wanted to make a statement that we felt like wasn't tied to a movement. I got up and I said in this church in the foreseeable future, we will stand with our brothers and sisters in this church that are not white that are frustrated, scared. If I refer to this, I'll going to say black lives matter. I shouldn't have to qualify it or explain to you how yes, white lives matter, and yes, right now that's not the issue. I was shocked about the pushback. But I was really encouraged by how many people went, coo. At the end of the day, it is a man who loves his wife and dotes on his three children. We celebrate many different religions. This is awesome. Thank you. A little bit of both. Normal, cool, we get to slow down. But this is not your Normal family. They're more resilient and sharper than we know. And it gives you peace as a parent. It. Everything at school. Okay. Try not to flaunt. I know Justin Bieber, they're really wise beyond their years with they will. I would abuse it more if I were them. Do not for sake wisdom and she W she will protect you. They agree they're like most members of their congregation. Living life and faith out loud without apology. We'll be right back. ABC news night line brought
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