'If Biden gets in, Biden and Bernie have 2 spots in the top 5': Matthew Dowd

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We just had a family meeting with all the grandkids too, and -- and there is a consensus that I should -- they want -- they, the most important people in my life, want me to run. I'm going to be making an announcement soon. I'm going to be making the same announcement to everyone at the same time. That's all -- that's all I can say at this time. Are you running for president? That's all I'm going to say. When will you make that announcement? Soon. Joe Biden and Beto O'rourke looking like they're about to get into the democratic race. Michael Bloomberg hanging out as well. And let's begin with you. This is so clear this will be the largest democratic field in a generation, and diverse in so many ways. It's very impressive in that there are a lot of very smart people, very capable people. They all, though, have Achilles heels to me. I think a lot of the front runners, you know, they have been elected basically in blue states as well as Cory booker. Bernie Sanders. Yep. About as blue as you can get, and kamala Harris. They haven't shown getting the vote getting ability in a red state or a purple state or obviously on a national basis. I think brown is an interesting candidate. Ohio. In that sense she's from Ohio and won a red state by seven points while the man at the top of his ticket was losing by five. I think that's impressive, but we'll see if he gets in. And it raises a question, one of the questions for Democrats. Are they going to try to win, first of all, by bringing back the rust belt states or reaching out to the sun belt states in I think the first strategy is how do they win the nomination, right? Long before they even get to, like, who can win a blue state, a red state or a purple state in this, I think this process is going to be very fascinating. It won't be a straight line. There will be ebbs and flows in all of this. Candidates are going to get in and candidates will get out and it will fundamentally adjust the field. I think the way to look at this, and I want to add one other thing. There is no longer a superdelegate laid over this, which means the likelihood of this going to a second ballot is high. Very high, and the proportionality that they have, and when you look at this, if Biden gets in, Biden and Bernie have two spots in the top five. That's what you need to aim for. How do you get in the top five? The question is who is going to fight over those other two or three spots? That's why I think Jay inslee is smart because if you have a singular issue you're talking about and you can get 10% or 12% or 13% of the vote, your goal is get in the top five. In addition to no superdelegates, there is no winner take all states and so one year from today, super Tuesday, California, Virginia, Massachusetts, North Carolina, you know -- Texas. Big states. Texas is right. Texas. A lot of delegates being decided and there are potentially as many as 20 candidates in the race, it's hard to imagine one person. This is likely to go on very long. It reminds me of 2016. You have all these candidates and so the question I think is who has that banked in 20%? Is that Biden or Bernie Sanders like president trump did when he ran? He started at 20 and started to build from there because there were so many candidates fracturing the party. The other big problem I think Democrats have right now, the most talked about Democrat in this country right now is not running, A.O.C. Is that where the party is right now, and how important will that be? That's -- bringing up the 2016 comparison, I think one of the questions is you look at Michael Bloomberg with an awful lot of money, and trump didn't have to spend too much of his own money, but clearly Michael Bloomberg prepared to spend an awful lot in order to try to do what Donald Trump did, take over the democratic party. Is it a viable path? I think it's a -- it's a theoretically viable path. I can't divorce the fact I covered New York City for many, many years and I was one of the reporters on his original campaign in 2001 and that was the last real campaign he ran. So a lot of these things sound great on paper and yes, he has a lot of money and because he has a lot of money, I don't understand why he's out there right now the way he is because he does have some time, which other people don't, but he is a pretty flawed candidate for this moment in the democratic party which is very centered around -- among other things, the stop and frisk issue, around black lives matter. He has a record in New York that I think would make that pretty hard. The democratic party not where the Republican party was in 2016. No. I don't think so, and I don't think Michael Bloomberg is where democratic rank and voters are particularly on economic questions where rank and file Democrats have moved to the left of where they were eight or ten years ago. You know, I think inslee is an interesting figure. He's probably going to have trouble breaking through, you know -- Isn't that the question for 80% of the field? For a lot of them, but here's the interesting thing about inslee, George. I think he could beat Donald Trump very easily. Generic Democrat who Fox News has been instructed it's an America to hate and despise for the last several years. Most people will not beat Donald Trump very easily. That's an important point about the general election. Look. If the election were tomorrow, he would more likely than not lose, but the election is not He's different from other Democrats. And the argument can't be, well, the president isn't a decent person. That can't be the argument. Republicans tried that in the primaries. It did not work against Donald Trump. They have to have an argument. The democratic party has moved farther to the left and will move farther to the left by the end of the process than the Republican party moved to the right over the last decade, and the most important and arguably influential Democrat isn't able to run. Congresswoman ocasio-cortez and she's the intellectual drive now on the democratic party and we see these candidates falling over themselves to adapt her positions and it's going to be very costly. And for democratic voters. Where most voters are, are much closer to where the Democrats are. They deal with supporting climate change. Health care. Most don't support the wall at the border. Most voters support increasing taxes on the wealthy. All of these things, the Democrats are much closer to where the country is than where the Republicans are. That's true in a polling context. It's not true when you lay out this policy.

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