A Conversation Between Black Men: Racial reckoning: Part 4

"GMA3" co-anchor T.J. Holmes examines who is having a racial reckoning in America after the death of George Floyd, while also acknowledging a decline in white allyship amid the pandemic.
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Eight conversation between black man continues on ABC news life. Everybody we're back their composition though the by TJ poll here is racial reckoning you'll feel like they're. Praise. For how they feel like a lot racial reckoning that simply you know with that need to know the nation I think it does. Broader political and I don't know how old. You know who made the heavy metal debris everywhere and people found out about June 18 live one bit yeah racial reconciliation. Race record in his new post racial air right hope that your little. Our society but the waiting list without heat they felt that the -- yeah president. We can put that the can I've seen that in so many scripts and you teases that have been written if it's this thing we're doing what have we reconciled what have we come to terms with. In the past year that we have and it is in our lifetimes. Seen in or you all think we we just in a moment and we'll get right back to business as usual. In few months nixed you. That has been my biggest fear. Does that. I have been changed. And a significant way since George Ford it's ever been in my work and my interaction what I deem to be important. Everything has changed since then and my concern. Is that. The momentum if you will. It's turning to dissipate. Because when when sports started back up again and again this is something that could give me part of our Frears Tim can be real with the that day with a distraction. And once you start getting the distractions back up and running again it becomes easier and easier to tell people were trying to remind you of these of this pain that we have and don't Wear. That we don't need to do about that all the time. I can't tell you how many times Smart Barbara told me they come towards fort distraction. And I always push back no to come twist for community. That's what bill sports sports is about community all your chief spent two assault by our American we the game that's community. It's not a belt simply taking your mind away from the troubles of the world. It's about identifying with people who share a world view picnicking with those who may not -- -- share will be brought everything but we can start here with sports. Hallway we think about that idea in many yeah I think you starter assault here early in the conversation talking about. We had a chance to sit with it we don't have so many distractions and here comes a distraction of sports cedar exact point that the U. What momentum do you feel. I Agassi we had a momentum scale we go back to may 25 last year George Bush dies. And there was the wrapping up wrapping up wrapping up a park where we now murmur I think we're. Probably like on the war and oh. Honestly because one post idol Affleck on Israel would see as many posts and and I think the car one measure and the I think part of the reason. Why that is is because we also made it very perform we have to protest to be made it very trendy to bend in the eight to ten foot. Which I don't necessarily agree with the birth. He ever I think we may very performance. And I think that's part of the issue we may like something to do rather than something that. Like you're doing your job as a human being right and then you make an eternity. Some different model with that you kind of hitting on here is we we wanna feel better and don't listen wanted to past segments feel good and present combatant doesn't have any of us when a gas tank. Absolutely not. For me I am a focus on policy because. We know what it's like to live the black experience it we know we don't have a choice not to abdicate for us we we know we don't have a choice. Not to speak up for black issues like especially if you had. Any sense of community whether there is this you in your four people I database is like it's up to you guys says to time be to change that you wanna see. Because see your point call about the before Mets activism is tiring but it is exhausting. And I'm seeing on the white ally said and I'm like man wants that vaccine is going and we experience herd immunity from. The distraction on Iraq exit and then as I well is it that. You know novelist and resume. Out of phone with a summit. So that's fine. Right that's why we have to be solution oriented to make sure we abdicate as best we cancel policies armed place. That we elect the right politicians to make sure they're gonna put legislation in place to make should secure for me policy and legislation is to guard rails of racism and bias case. Racism is never gonna go away. Saying we are never going to be able to have. I mean acid than and I go down that route. Fiore to the on the black Sergey much. Her you are currently African. And I go yeah. Yeah. We are we talk about bot not being monolith but so much all the buzz is one thing so much. We are in the same struggle even though we from different places so do you you peeping on policy you working on that he's working in the street are we missing. Black leadership and what what I mean by this week. We were all put in the stained. Pot by society for while no matter who you work you get the hoses on you the dog that we. But there's a brother Livan in the suburb in Atlanta that doesn't have the same struggle as a brother. If including queens. Are we missing some type of message and leadership. To bring all that together to get us to understand we all are still in the same struggle together for all we not. I think we're. All in various stages. All the larger systemic problem. Just because there's a black president doesn't mean that their president has an experience racism or that racism has gone. And as the black president you still get the benefits of being president. But also the scarlet letter being black. So the struggles of Barack Obama and his wife Michelle are different than mine. But the element of blackness remains to say because there is a connective tissue even though were different parts of the body. We know black Hispanic students see it it's just hard to really explain. To that question of blackness I want to make sure we come back for another block here one ask you about it prominence you about it is well that would that cutting in on upbeat note unhappy it'll. The glass and having already. And go on your bed if they believe on behalf did yeah look Mali today. Let me get it we'll. Brad Bryant aren't good enough we read medical diluted. The flick but I.

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