Transcript for FULL INTERVIEW: Hillary Clinton Sits Down With ABC's David Muir
Secretary Clinton thank you thank you can't. Here we sit five months into your campaign and there are some eye opening poll numbers out there and I'm sure you're aware of them when it comes to how Americans seed. Our ABC poll Gallup quinnipiac showing your favorability numbers taking a sharp dive in one pull the lowest ever. And when voters were asked what is the first word that comes to mind when you think of Hillary Clinton. Works like liar dishonest untrustworthy worth the top of the list. Does this tell you that you were original explanation about the private server that you did it to carry one phone out of convenience. That this didn't sit well with the American people. Well David obviously I don't like hearing that I am confident IV. End of this campaign people Melanie can't trust me and that I will be on their side and we'll fight. For them and their families. But I do think I could have it should've done a better job. Answering questions earlier I really. Didn't perhaps appreciate. He need to do that what I had done was allowed it was. Above board. But in retrospect certainly as I look back at it now even though it was allowed I should've used to counts one for. Personal one for. Work related emails. That was mistake I'm sorry about that I take responsibility. And I'm trying to be as transparent as I possibly can to. Not only release 55000 pages. My emails turn over my server. But I am looking forward finally to testifying before congress something I've been asking for. For nearly a year. You have said he would apologize for the confusion right but not say I'm sorry but I did hear a word in there just a moment ago and I'm curious. Would you acknowledge that you made a mistake here because you wrote. In your own memoir last year just how important using the word mistake is raw politics here you wrote in our political culture. Saying you made a mistake is often taken as weakness when in fact can be a sign of strength. And growth in so as you sit here millions watching tonight did you make a mistake. I did I did as I said it was allowed to and there was no. Hiding it it was totally above board everybody in the government I communicated with son that was a lot of people. I knew I was. Using a personal email. But I'm sorry that it has erased all of these questions I do take responsibility for having made latest clearly not the best decision. And I want people to know that I am trying to be as transparent as possible so that. No legitimate questions. Cannon will be answered. You mentioned everybody in government knew that you were using this private server it did fellow members of the cabinet note that the president now. Everyone I email question I'm not going to go into names but let me say email with many people in the White House in the rest of the government of course across the State Department. Knew that I was emailing from a personal account it appeared. You know I asked my address but I emailed. Two people on there dot gov accounts and that's why I believe and I think it's been proven to be. Accurate that the vast majority of everything that I was he mailing. Would be captured on the state department's system or on the government's system that I emails and check. You see these headlines every day just as we do the New York Times just today reporting on a second review now. Of two of the emails in particular sent to you the times' reporting they contain classified information. The Intelligence Committees inspector general telling ABC today that after reviewing those emails that two of them. Carry the classification of top secret that all emails were classified when they were created. And remain classified now one was about drones one was about. North Korea's nuclear program and I'm curious does this mean classified information. Passed through your private server. Well there's still is you know a dispute the State Department disputes that I understand why different agencies have different views and I respect that. It does not change the fact that I did not send or receive. Any information that was marked classified at the time. Now I know that. It's hard for people who haven't been in these systems perhaps to understand exactly how this works. But in the State Department and at an unclassified system so David even if I had used. A government account on. And I it's and I wanted emails released. We would be going to the same process and that is a very typical process that takes place when. Information is requested or somebody asked that it be made public. So the same kinds of disagreements between different parts the government would be occurring. But I think even the inspector general of the intelligence committee as well let's community as well as others have said. I did not send nor received any information that was marked classified after. Time right at the time and Marc Klaas in mind the let me ask you. For the rest of us the average voter and average if you are out there who might wonder. How can some of these emails become declassified and label its top secret today who didn't what changed in and so significantly that you wouldn't have. See red flags even just a couple of years ago secretary of state that you all people who is now. Yeah that's a very fair question and I think their a couple of answers once sometimes events do proceed in a way that. Maybe there's. A case being brought against somebody. And even terrorist and all of a sudden everything is classified until. The trial attorneys go through it to figure out what should or shouldn't be public. May be there is any. He backward looking. Effort to see okay. Maybe that wasn't classified or maybe that was unclassified. On the State Department system. But we had it on a different system and we treat it differently something that we would've known about in the state department's North Korea's nuclear program wouldn't that be classified there's a lot of public information about their nuclear program I don't know the specifics about the one that they are. Claiming is classified I can only repeat what happens to be the case that I did not send. Nor receive information that was marked classified at the time it was sent or oversee. Let's go bigger picture here for a moment because many. Who quite frankly wanted to support you. Have now learned of this FBI investigation have learned of the IT guy who helped set up the server planning to plead the fifth. And it and many who have said to themselves here Hillary Clinton of all people has been in the public eye for so long. That she should have known and and perhaps the more important question they're asking is can Hillary Clinton survive this. Then head. Yes of course I can. I as you might guess have been around awhile and their and lots of you know. Attacks and counter attacks and questions raised and I can survive it because I think I'm running to be president. And to do what the country needs done and I believe the American people we'll respond to that. You know with respect to the two points that you made. This is security investigation and that's why I turned over my surfer and it's not as has been confirmed a criminal investigation again. That needs to be explained to people because they may not understand the difference. And I I think on all of this I'm looking forward to testifying before the congress in public which is what I. Demanded to be able to do. I'll answer all the questions for as long as they wish to ask them. But at the end of the day at least in the campaigning that I'm doing around the country. People want to know what I'm gonna do for them when I'm gonna do for their families they want a president who will take care of the big issues that are in the headlines whether it's places or climate change or Syrian refugees but they also want a president who's gonna care about. The promise to keep them up at night and they know that I will and that I will work hard to try to make America work again for people. We saw the voters we view this weekend we also saw voters out with Joseph Biden and who. He was jogging along the way and and we heard them shouting run Joseph run and you've said everyone should give him time to decide threat. Given what's happened recently in his family. But you were once on the same team inside the White House and often have breakfast ready to vice president what do you make a good president. Well I'd like Joseph Biden a lot and I think he is a great vice president if he gets into. This election will be lots of time to talk about. You know what's so when you do witty making well you know I think he could be any good president there's no doubt about that. But I think he you know we shouldn't get into the politics of this back and forth because. I don't think it's fair to him he's testing the waters he deserves to test the waters he deserves to. Had a feeling that such an emotional. Decision at the end of the day this is a ruling. Different calls journey that anybody who decides to run for president subjects themselves to. You have to be really ready and prepared and Joseph has set himself he's got to find out when injuries got the you know that. That the fortitude given everything that's happened to so I'm not gonna comment on. On his campaign in waiting or whether they're even as a campaign and who does the president choose Hillary as tenor Joseph Biden. Well I think the president will have to wait to decide who the candidates are and I know he wants to be succeeded by a Democrat and I very much hope that happens because I think. The country in the economy do better we have a Democrat in the White House. Let's talk about the speech to planned again tomorrow a major speech playing at your support for the Iran nuclear deal. As you know Republicans have come out swinging even some Democrats to. About what happens when the deal is done. And I wanted to ask you but a recent Brookings analysis that says after fifteen years Iran would be allowed to produce reactor grade fuel and an industrial scale. Using far more advanced centrifuges and that the warning time. If Iran decides to race for a bomb which freed two weeks. Does that concern you. Of course it does everything about Iran concerns me a do not trust them you know two paraphrase. President Reagan in don't trust and yes verify I intend to lay out tomorrow. Why I think this agreement. Is in the best interest of the united states of our allies including Israel. But that we have to remain very vigilant and I will talk about some of these steps I would take is president. Two in force to the app salute letter. The agreement to hold Iran accountable. And to reaffirm that we can never ever allow Iran to have a nuclear. When you say don't trust and verify you've also said cheat and you will pay right. Your former senate colleague Chuck Schumer against the deal saying inspections are not anywhere any time in that the 24 day delay before we can inspect. It's troubling does that 24 day waiting period W two. Well there's a lot of other inspections going on this is an element of the inspections which and we'll addressed tomorrow. Anything about Iran and whether or not it will comply with the agreements it signs. I think cast remain an open question there's no doubt about that. Don't they give it time does it give the Iranians time to move things out of the way. You know. We now have very advanced detection equipment at one of the most important. Contributors to the agreement was secretary monies the secretary department of energy and nuclear physicist from MIT. I take very seriously what he says because. I know of his expertise in this arena. Tomorrow I will be very much addressing skeptics. Because they make some good points they I don't reject. Their concerns out of hand I think they are totally legitimate. The real bottom line is what's are better alternative. I put together the coalition that brought the world to the place where we impose global sanctions on Iraq it took me eighteen months. And then it took me another year to make sure that they were being followed. I know how hard this is to get the world together to stand up to anybody let alone Iran. We did that we got them to the negotiating table. Now of course if the United States blocks away the rest of the world. Is going to think wedeman we got the best deal we could and given the constraints I think that is the case. And these sanctions would be gone in any event the United States can keep imposing them but that's that we did during the Bush Administration. So that win. We came in President Obama and I came as secretary of state. He rays had already mastered the nuclear fuel cycle under the Bush Administration. They had built Covert facilities they had stocked them with centrifuges. They were proceeds. So our sanctions everything we did as the United States in those eight years at the two bush terms. Did not stop Iraq. We now have the opportunity. Gift vigilant Lee in forced to stop and to prevent them now. We have to begin to look what happens at the end of ten years at the end of fifteen years but this gives us time. It puts a lid on their nuclear weapons program it allows us frankly it to turn. To deal with some of their other very troubling behavior their support of terrorism. Their constant support of Hezbollah Hamas their interference with the countries in the their region from Yemen to others. So we've got other problems with Iran. This gives us the chance to keep that lid on their nuclear weapons program and to turn. To build the same panic coalition against them when it comes to their support for aside and so much else. Accurate home Donald Trump. I want to read you something Jeb Bush's son recently tweeted. Can't wait for this summer reality TV show to be over if that's cute that the fact that he's the real issue or are we witnessing something real here. Well that's gonna get to the Republicans in the Republican primaries to determine. You know I'm always a little amused ran. People get into politics and they think that all you have to do is give speeches hand. The more colorful you are the more dramatic. And more. Vehement you are that's leadership well in fact if you're running to be present United States. You have to know every single day people all over the world really pay attention to what you say they make decisions markets rise and fall. Armies get bigger or smaller things happen with real consequences and if we have people whose view of leadership is the kind of rhetoric that gets you know lots of applause gets lots of attention. Then I think we sell herself short. So we have made that turn into the post Labor Day period and it's going to be up to the Republican voters to decide you know who they want to support do you think double purpose is to leader of rhetoric and speeches. Well he won't tell you do anything. You know we try to question him about. OK tell me you wanted to deport eleven or twelve million people how you do that well we're you know we're told to leave and then they can get line to come back. Minutes that's hardly something else he said. That I will take care women's health and women's health issues better than anybody and far better than Hillary Clinton. Who doesn't publicly well that's just absurd it's laughable if it weren't about a serious issue. When his health is really an important issue to me personally as well as the work that I've done for many decades and if that's his position I look forward if he is the nominee to debating him the privately as you're travelling with your campaign team and when you hear something like that. What's your first reaction there he goes again. And I've address at time diaries that particular issue when I was in New Hampshire Saturday. At the rally and women for Hillary where senator Shaheen endorsed me and you know we just look at each other we just shrug in the justice Moore in the saint and we're gonna be held to a high standard about. You know what I would do was president how I would do it when policies I would promote. What's my vision how to get things done everybody else should be asked the same. We sat down with the Pope just last week and he and zealous efforts I could have been there it was extraordinary extraordinary and he made news again today. Radically transforming the process for Catholics when it comes to a divorce and annulment within the church speaking of a more inclusive church. Fast tracking the process and I'm curious what you make. Of this hope and some of the changes he's making in the church. I am not a Catholic but I am a great admire. How because I think what he's trying to do. Is to take this venerable. Institution the Roman Catholic church and really once again place and the firm foundation. The scriptures. Christ's words one can not read the sermon on the mount. Without thinking that we all have to be. More humble we all have to be more kind and respectful we all have to try to. Do more help our fellow men and women and I think that the Pope is emphasizing the words Jesus Christ emphasizing. A high priority given to the poor. Priority of caring for those who are in trouble when that they. On the side of the road or with the there in prison. It's hard when you're in. The world we live again. To be. As good Cain messenger crisis. Words with as we would like with a partisan divide in this country is he going to make. People feel uncomfortable during that joint meeting with congress that first ever joint meaning he doesn't hold back. Well I think leaders of conscience particularly leaders have faith. Who. Say. What they believe in their heart and with dare call to say often make people uncomfortable. And we need that we need more of that you know the kind of mean spiritedness that I see too much in our politics. Turning our backs on the poor. Trying to. Prevent. People from you know having the opportunities they need to have by. Cutting programs by making college literally and affordable for hard working low income kids there's a lot that's wrong in America. And it's not just wrong politically it's really wrong in our hearts and I hope what the Pope does is to prick the conscience of everyone I'm not talking right left Republican Democrat all of us have to do better and if he can. Summoned that heart of America. You know de Tocqueville was actually right when he said what sets us apart. In addition to being the longest democracy our constitutions to match its credit habits of the heart. Americans. He noticed that way back in the 1830s. We've got to be reminded. Him that's in large measure with the fight over the confederate flags really. Do we need a symbol that I sickness. Battle flag that was a symbol of racism. To be flying manner state grounds now. We count but they're so much else we can do better together and I hope the Pope really calls us to do that helps. Spur the conversation just a couple of like questions before you head back out on the campaign trail after us today. I understand you're a fan of house of cards I am. I'm just curious who you relate to more Robin Wright as First Lady your captain Stacy as commander in chief well honestly neither. You know I think I know enough about our political system and the vigilance of the press that neither of them would be in that position but it's great drama and I they're just such superb actors. Charlotte turns one in just couple weeks he does she I'm curious what is she going to call when she starts talking. Well to grandma and I don't know David were waiting she doesn't talk yet to me slots the sound she's got a few words but. I wanna wait to see what she does comedy premise fine madam president's five whatever she chooses. She'll be talking before then well yes program so much the process with you. And let me let me finally. And the interview by asking about something you made reference to which a line. In talking about chilled by news that it takes it takes walked to run for president. Americans have watched you as First Lady watched you run for senate. They watch to run for president the first time he served as secretary of state and now you're running for president second time. And I one in your most private of moments. Is there ever an instance when you ask yourself. Why am things. Yes of course because it really is hard and it's it's something that. He had just demands everything. Physically emotionally. Spiritually it is just twenty for seven and you have to be fully present everybody that I need I want to give them my best. So hot the end of a very long days. This is really hard but then. You do a town home place like you Rhode Island young. Mother stands up with her four and a half month old baby in her arms and sit you know. Why it's hard being on in this country I need paid leave. I don't wanna leave my baby too early. I want other people have the same opportunities. He's your issues that I have fought for in my entire adult life. How I cherish and love this country it gave me. I opportunities far beyond anything my mother my father couldn't. I want to make sure that everybody has those same opportunities. Not just our granddaughter the granddaughter of former president. But every single child in America can feel. What I felt you know half do we have to do battered we have problems I grew up in the civil rights era of course we do it. And we still have a long way to go but no nation has ever done more. Did he more inclusive to try to overcome. Problems of human nature that we Holler afflicted by and I think that our nation deserves a president who will be focused on. Guiding us through the big problems we face but also remembering. What those people have told me all my life about. The difficulties they encounter just trying to raise a family is trying to make it in America again. So it's hard but seemed to actually worth it you wake up like the rest of us once awhile think. I really doing this again quickly get up of course you know I never you know I was a girl. I never thought I would run for president when I was growing up I never thought I'd be in political life I never. Really believed I'd run for anything and it was a long journey to get me to agreed run for the senate the first time and it was a young woman. You persuaded me when. She basically embarrassed me by saying you know you go around telling people to compete well dared to compete mrs. Clinton so I did it is your mother's voice in your gear and so woods didn't give me one line that you repeat yourself. You know. Is as you probably know my mother had a terrible childhood she was and entire parents in this. Rejected by a grandparent she was literally working as a house made. At the age of fourteen. She told me every day you can get up and fight for what you believe in no matter how hard it is. I think of utter a lot in this circle I wish she were here with me. And I remember that god don't want to just fight for me I don't. They have a perfectly fine like not being pressed a fight for all the people like my mother who need somebody in their corner. And they need a leader who cares about them again so that's what I'm trying to do. And having fun I am it's hard but it's fun and also things that. Our heart and life are fun and you know when my great favorite lines from a league of their own. When Tom Hanks playing broken down drunken coach you know confronts. You know the player. That he insists it's so hard and pieces supposed to be heart if it wasn't hard anybody can do it. Secretary Clinton we think he's thinks in the sea and the draft after you've got look forward to it six pages.
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