Meek Mill speaks out about gun and drug convictions

Mill joins "The View" with his lawyer to discuss their efforts to reform the criminal justice system.
8:38 | 06/13/18

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justice system is something rapper meek mill thinks is a long overdue process, and he is fighting to overturn his 2008 drug and weapon conviction and says it's a battle that's much bigger than him. And he is here to tell us why. Please welcome meek mill and his attorney, Jordan siev. Thank you. So meek, this all started -- this started for you 11 years ago. You were convicted of a drug and weapons charge at 19. Yes. In philly. Can you just break down what happened? Basically, being a city kid, I don't know who come from some of the ghettos of America where, you know, you have some environments are ruthless environments and we grew up in these environments from a child and actually, I was arrested by a narcotic strike force unit, and, you know, the same old story. Black kid beat, locked up, charged with 30, 40 charges and when I went to court, I was found guilty for them charges. Right there, you can see my mug shot. How did your eye get like that? Actually, same thing that happened to Rodney king. It was just -- it wasn't as brutal as his, and, you know, I got beat down. The cops said we did everything under the book. You had a group of cops saying I pointed a firearm. Two, three of them. This is the age of bodycameras, and phone videos. If you get stopped by a cop, and you're a black kid, you're found guilty. People say, what happened to your face? People are used to seeing mug shots of black men with their face beat up, and nobody ever asks. You're the first person to ask me what happened to my face. I thought the judge would give some type of doubt to my case, and I was found guilty of all charges I didn't do. Were they looking for someone else? Was there a description of the person they were looking for? I don't know. I just know in the streets of Philadelphia, cops everywhere. They are coming at you 100-mile-an-hour at least five days a week. We have since learned part of the arresting officer's team, there have been a number of guilty pleas and indictments of this whole team in Philadelphia, and, in fact, the arrest warrant that was sworn out by this since discredited police officer said they were looking for a 5'8" light-skinned black male. So you can see meek here is not 5'8" or light-skinned, and there were a number of other discrepancies and that, and then he was the only witness to testify at the trial. Right. Right. But this group has been since discredited. Yes, and that's the reason that we are where we are today with the district attorney agreement, makes him entitled to a new trial. Meek, you have been on probation for eight years. What has that been like? Probation for eight years. It's been a struggle. The way probation is designed. You have two sides of when people hear, you violate probation, you go to jail. My initial crime, I got found guilty of pointing a firearm at two, three officers. If I did that in the middle of the night, I wouldn't be doing "The view" today. At the same time, with probation, you have to live a straight forward life where you can't make a mistake. You can get a tech for jaywalking, or a speeding ticket. You get police contact at least once a week as a city kid. Now we're in New York. I live in Philadelphia. If I make a mistake and pull through the Lincoln tunnel and get pulled over, that's a technical violation. I can get four, five years in jail for taking a wrong step the wrong way. Last November after a technical violation, judge Brinkley sends meek to five years in prison, and serves five months. The parole officer said they were against prison time. How does that happen? I think exactly as we're discussing. Their technical violations and when you have a situation, meek got arrested when he was 19. He is 31 now. He has been on probation ever since. It creates this cycle where you have to report for years and years, and the judge here is taking a very unusual interest in meek's case. He has to report his daily schedule to her. He is a musician, he is an entertainer it is traveling, and performing. I'm a father too. And the father to of a young son, and he is out working. He is supporting his family. Aw. Thank you. That's what people generally want. They want someone to be working and supporting their family. That's -- that's someone that's doing the right thing. Exactly. I think people would sit there and say, if you commit more crimes, of course, you should go back to jail. If you say you're in New Jersey and end up in New York instead across through the Lincoln tunnel or you have a reporting violation, what happened here is the judge took a number of things that she claimed were technical violations, strung them together, brought meek in for a hearing last November and none of these were crimes that he committed. There were no police charges that ultimately stuck. There were no prosecutions in any cases. Right. And there were minor technical issues, and the judge brought it all in. The direct attorney's office as you said, the probation office that has been supervising meek, they came into court and said, we think he is doing great. He is doing exactly what you want someone to do. He is rehabilitating, working through people. Two to four years. I'm sorry. That's unbelievable. Is the judge having an issue? Is she -- seems like an awfully long time to be on probation. Am I crazy? It happens unfortunately, but yesterday, Jordan, the Pennsylvania supreme court voted in a split decision which ultimately denied your motion to have judge Brinkley removed from meek's case. So where do you go from here? Well, the reason for that application, we think that the judge has shown an unusual personal interest in meek's case. Rather than been a mutual ash terror of the facts. I can see the look on your face. I have never in my 25-year career as a lawyer, criminal lawyer, heard of that. Ever. So a number of personal things like that. So we have made application to have her removed because what she is also doing is she is treating meek's case differently than other cases. Absolutely. Absolutely. Where these cases, a public defender has come in and made an application to get those cases overturned. They are all treated and handled by one judge and, in fact, that judge has dismissed at least three of those cases recently with no hearing. Right. This judge has said, despite the fact that the D.A. -- We have a letter from the district attorney saying, we agree. Meek's entitled to a new trial. She has said, no. Despite the fact that both sides in this dispute think there is no dispute, you're coming in on the 18th for a hearing. I know you're trying to work with prison reform based really on the guys that you met when you were in, and everything you have seen. What are you doing to move this in a different direction? Actually, we started one of the biggest foundations surrounding criminal justice reform. Me, myself, Michael Rubin, Jay-Z, having platforms like this to speak on, and situations like myself. I don't spend my interviews talking about just my case, but I usually spend it talking about the rules and the laws that were made to actually keep people like myself in these type of situations. Me, I'm actually doing a little okay for myself, and I have resources. You just said a little okay for yourself? I believe. Listen. You have to come back because this is too important for just this five minutes. We need to do a whole show about this and talk more about this.

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