What will it take to end violent police encounters with Black people?

Daunte Wright was shot during a traffic stop on Sunday. Recently released police bodycam video of another traffic stop shows Army Lt. Caron Nazario in uniform getting pepper-sprayed. Experts discuss.
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Reporter: It's starting to feel that not a day goes by in America without a police encounter with a black or brown man that's gone wrong. No justice! No peace! Reporter: Cameras in every pocket and now on every police vest are forcing change in police departments across the country. It's police interactions like the shooting death of daunte Wright in Brooklyn center, Minnesota, that has people calling for more training for police officers. The officer who police say fired the bullet mistook her gun for her taser, according to police. And there is a push in communities everywhere to keep the next daunte Wright from being shot for expired tags and the next George Floyd from losing his life after being accused of using a fake $20 bill. Tside Richmond, Virginia there are calls for police training after this alarming video was released over the weekend. What are you, a specialist? I'm a lieutenant. Reporter: Police in Windsor, Virginia announced they fired one of the officers seen in this body camera video that has angered everyone from the governor to people in the U.S. Army to civil rights groups. Get out of the car now. Get out of the car! Reporter: Behind the wheel of this newly purchased brand-new SUV is a U.S. Army second lieutenant, clearly dressed in army fatigues. Lieutenant Caron Nazario is black and Latino, and the police say they pulled him over because his vehicle was missing a rear license plate. But as you can see right here, it has a temporary license plate displayed in the back. I'm honestly afraid to get out. Yeah you should be. Reporter: When he refuses to leave the car, the officer who was now fired pulls out the pepper spray. Please, relax. Get out of the car right now. I'm actively serving this country, and this is how you're going treat me? I didn't do anything. Whoa, hold on! What's going -- hold on. Watch it. Watch it. Why am I being treated like this? Reporter: The traffic stop was in December, and in the police report, one of the officers wrote that the lieutenant was eluding police because he didn't stop right away. In his lawsuit the lieutenant says it was less than two minutes, and he wanted to pull over into this well lit area. He was released with no charges, and is now suing the police in federal court. Why does this continue to occur, right? It's not new. The body cameras may be new. The violence isn't. Reporter: In a statement, Windsor police announced that officer Joe Gutierrez has been fired, saying that at the conclusion of this investigation, it was determined that Windsor police department policy was not followed. ABC news has not received a response for comment from the department or the police officers involved. The local police now say they've ordered additional training for officers department wide starting in January, and the state police of Virginia have announced that they are investigating this incident. And for more on the use of force by police, earlier this evening I spoke to lieutenant Yolanda Williams of the San Francisco police department and Marc Lamont hill, a professor of media studies at temple university. Thank you both so much for being with us tonight. Lieutenant Williams, I want to start with you. You see those images, images we have seen before. We almost expect to see them every few months. What does this say about the state of policing in our country? It really is an example of, again, the need for real police reform. It is time for us to start ensuring that there is no more police brutality directed wards our black young men and women. And mark, I want to bring you in. It feels like we're on fragile ground. These two fresh videos showing the excessive force we have seen so many times before. What does this say about training and how far or how far we haven't come since last may? Yeah, you know, after the tragic killing of George Floyd and breonna Taylor, many people saw it as a reckoning for the and we have turned a corner to the extent that we're focused on it more and we're having the conversations. But the type of deep structural problems that caused state violence to happen, that cause black people to lose their lives a the hands of police officers so often is something that we can't fix in a moment. It's going to take a real reimagining of the role of policing and the state in our society. And lieutenant Williams, turning to that video of second lieutenant Nazario that we just show you'd a couple of moments ago, what do you think this says about the response of police? Do you think that was appropriate how officers responded? The response from the police officers was totally inappropriate, and I can understand the lieutenant feeling that it was important for him to be in a lighted area. Because we've heard so many times of incidents involving police brutality and fortunately he was in a lit area and the body worn cameras revealed exactly what had occurred. And he was totally -- his rights were totally violated. And mark, in that video that we can could see Nazario put his hands out the window, he told the officers that he was out of the cars. One of the officers told him that he should be. What do you think it says about someone who signed up to risk his life for this country who is here at home, afraid of people meant to protect him? It says everything. The fact that someone can go to war potentially, someone who is prepared to put their life on the line still feels terrified says everything about what it means to be black in America. It says that we don't feel protected by police. We don't feel safe when they show up. This is why he needs to go to a lit area. This is why he wanted to ask why he was being pulled over. This is why he was reluctant to get out of the car. He didn't feel that it was reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt given everything we've seen in recent years. This is tragic. And now to both of you what, more needs to be done so we can stop seeing the incidents that we keep seeing over and over again? I think that we do need to have more training geared towards de-escalation, geared towards showing respect to everyone. We see black people being treated like they're less than human, and it is totally unacceptable. We need to stop thinking that this is a case of bad apples, and we have to say that this is not a system that is broken. This is a system that is working exactly as it's designed. Instead of trying to make the system work we have to find a way to break the current system and build one that is fair and just and humane for everybody. That takes an entirely different level of political well and commitment. That's something else. Marc Lamont hill and lieutenant Yolanda Williams, thank you so much both for joining us tonight.

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