Transcript for Rep. Jerry Nadler on Mueller report fallout, possibility of impeachment
those top Democrats now, the chairman of the house judiciary committee Jerry Nadler. Thank you for coming in this morning. Thank you. You just heard Sarah Sanders. She said the white house reading of the Mueller report and the attorney general's reader of the Mueller report is that he left the decision of obstruction to the attorney general who made it rightly. That's just wrong. It's another one of the lies that Sarah Sanders and the -- lots of people in the administration have been making. Mueller, the special prosecutor, made very clear that he couldn't reach a determination on obstruction of justice basically because of certain justice department guidelines which didn't allow him to do that but that he laid it out for congress -- for congress to do, not to the attorney general. The attorney general has revealed himself, Barr has revealed himself as an agent of the president. He's a defense attorney for the people. He kept -- he clearly misled over a period of four weeks from March 24th right through his press conference yesterday, he consistently misled the American people as to what was in the report. He said that they found no collusion whereas the special prosecutor specifically said collusion is not a legal term and he didn't make any findings that we hadn't reached a finding on criminal conspiracy. Do you accept that finding from Robert Mueller that there was no criminal conspiracy? Well, he wasn't able to prove a criminal conspiracy and one of the reasons he said he wasn't able to do it was that lots of people destroyed evidence, perjured themselves, so I accept his conclusion that he couldn't prove it. Based on the reading, 188 pages of evidence or so on obstruction of justice, do you believe the president committed obstruction of justice? I believe he committed obstruction of justice, yes, but it's not up to me. It's up to -- You're the chairman of the judiciary committee. You can open impeachment proceedings. Well, we're not there. We have to now, because the special -- because Barr misled the country, we have to hear from Barr which we will on may 2nd. We have to hear from Mueller and ask him a lot of questions. We have to hold hearings and hear from other people both on the question of obstruction of justice, whereas I said the special prosecutor invited congress to look into that, not the attorney general. We have to look into all that. We need the entire report unredacted and the underlying documents in order to make informed decisions. After we get that -- and we will subpoena that entire report today. That subpoena is coming today? That subpoena will come in the next couple of hours. Including the grand jury evidence? Including the grand jury evidence, yes. Because we have to see the entire report. By the way, in every previous instance, congress has seen all the evidence. The attorney general in previous instances both with Clinton, with Nixon, went to court with the -- But that's not going to happen here and a lot of legal experts believe you would be on much stronger ground to get that grand jury evidence if you actually opened an official impeachment proceedings. Yes, some people believe that. I believe that one of the things that we need that evidence for is to determine whether to do that or not. We have to determine what the proper course of action is to deal with a president who's been shown in this report, very clearly shown, to lie all the time, a culture of lying, to have if not colluded -- well, in the plain meaning of the term colluded with the Russians, not the criminal conspiracy. One of the things that the special prosecutor finds is that the Russians were clearly out to help trump, that the trump campaign knew about it and welcomed their assistance and in some cases new about what they were going to do, what Wikileaks was going to do in advance. They couldn't prove criminal conspiracy but there's certainly proving cooperation. That is very disturbing to cooperate with a foreign power. That is all the time we have for today. Thank you.
This transcript has been automatically generated and may not be 100% accurate.