VP-elect Mike Pence Says Trump's Phone Call With Taiwan 'Just A Courtesy Call'

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos goes one-on-one with Vice President-elect Mike Pence.
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Joined by the man leading the trump transition vice pres elect Mike Pence congratulations on your victory thank you Georgia thank you for coming in let's get right to China that call. With the leader of Taiwan as far as we know. No president or present elected spoke with heart Taiwan's leader in nearly four decades. Why did mr. countries to break that president. Well well I'll tell you what from the morning after the election. How we've seen the president elect engaging the world he's spoken in more than fifty world leaders I'm I've spoken to several dozen myself and he received a courtesy call from the democratically elected president. Of Taiwan has prearranged pick congratulated and what was today reached out to offer congratulations as leaders around the world have them. And and he he he took the call excepted or her congratulations. And and good wishes and and it was it was precisely that he intend to send the kind of signal sent because the Chinese Government. Has already complained about this how did you guys responded that well I'd. I understand. With some of the controversy in the media about this tonight I just immediately the Chinese Government well yes of course but I've I would tell you that. I think I think. The American people look and find it very refreshing the energy. That our president elect is bringing to this whole transitions not only. Donnelly bring together cabinet a historic pace for the last forty years. That he's not only assembling a legislative agenda to to move forward this country at home and abroad but he's also been engaging the world I think. During the course of the transition eight years ago prison Obama's reported spoke to 22 world leaders and and did not present alleged ringleader one that's contract more than thrifty and I think the American people want. Are encouraged rather George to see the president electron is. Is taking calls from the world speaking to the world they know he's going to be out there advancing America's interest first. Where that broad shouldered leadership this characterize his entire life. But I think it all begins with relationships and and that was there was nothing more than taking a courtesy call congratulations from the democratically elected. Leader of time so no implications for the one China policy well. You will will deal with policy after January the twentieth this was a courtesy call plus I have to tell you Georgia's. It it's a little mystifying to me that the President Obama can can reach out two of murdering dictator in in Cuba in the last year. And be hailed as a hero for doing it and president elect the Donald Trump takes a courtesy call from the democratically elected leader in Taiwan and it's become. It's become something of a controversy I think the American people appreciate the fact that. That our president elect is taking calls from and reaching out. To the world in preparing on day one to lead America on the world stage on day one will he label trying to China a currency manipulator. Well he said that over the course of the campaign and the truth the matter is. A lot's gonna change. And America's second so he policies not just with regard to China but with regard. To the North American Free Trade Agreement with regard to look we we've been at that America's been losing too much. In jobs and economic growth on the world stage and I think people can count on the fact that. The president elect. And Donald Trump when he raised his right hand is gonna walk into the Oval Office and it's gonna. Easy to become a champion for America's annual follow that promise well he's he's he's gonna fight for American jobs and and we're gonna stop losing to China and other countries does that mean labeling image currency manipulator it'll it'll be for the president elect to decide whether he. Implements that policy after inauguration he spoke about that in the course of the campaign but look it's all about a process he spoke to. Prison G in China two weeks ago they had a great conversation. He's begun a relationship there but after January 20. Our new president will make decisions about what's policies the United States and be but I promise you. America's gonna star winning on the world stage again and winning economically and and he'll make the register so is John Bolden said he believes that the relation with China has to be shaken up. Well I I think I think I think the president elect was very clear during the course of the campaign we've we've just been losing to China for too long. Economically. And it's it's time. But time has come the American people elected a president who not just with regard to China but with other countries around the world and even in our hemisphere that. There we're gonna put American workers and American jobs first and were have a president that make sure we have trade deals and we advance policies. Economic policies on the world stage that accomplish let's talk about care you guys got a nice thank you have when east went to say thank in Indiana this week for saving the several hundred jobs. In the carrier in the carrier plan president elect trumpets follow that up with a treat of a tweet about the Rex or corporation just a mile down the road. From caring put it out he said wreck sort of Indiana. Is moving to Mexico and rather viciously firing all of its 300 workers this is happening all over our country. No more so are you now negotiating Rex norte. Well what what I can tell you is that we had a great day in Indiana on Thursday and carriers staying. In the United States because Donald Trump was elected president. Plain and simple for several hundred out of sync with thirteen hundred are still going well but look let's I understand the glasses have full mentality of some in the in them in the national media George that this was great news. For over a thousand families in Indiana who we're gonna see those jobs go south of the border. We got we got word in February carry just announced after being in Indiana since the 1950s there were pulling up stakes and go on to Mexico they were literally to follow a number of other companies. In their industry that a gone to Mexico years ago. I said down with them in March and said can we put together an incentive package which states always doom Indiana does on a routine basis. Two and encourage you to stay here they said. Don't even bother to sit with the avalanche of regulations coming out of Washington DC a taxation it just they said we can't make it happen. But I was there in the office who wasn't even a week after the election the president elect and it's of talking to foreign leaders. Assembling a cabinet. Advancing a legislative agenda pulling together a team at historic pace he picked up the phone and he called. The chairman of the parent company and just said look we're gonna cut taxes we're gonna roll back regulation we're gonna repeal and replace obamacare. We're gonna we're gonna make America more competitive for manufacturing and we're gonna renegotiate trade deal is an American workers adversely how symbolic he simply asked them. Would you reconsider leaving our country and they said. Yeah does he now pick up the phone and call the head of Rex partisan call all these other companies we're gonna move overseas. I think what you're going to see in the president elect will make those decisions on. On day by day basis in that in the course of the transition of course the administration but what what you're seeing emerge here I think it's so exciting. For millions of Americans you should've seen the emotion on people's tastes like carrier planned torch I mean there was. An event and it it was one of the most emotional experiences that I've had in my public career the way people reached out. Grabbed our president elect by the hand and just said thank you because they see in him someone is going to fight for American jobs. He's gonna fight on the world stage a negotiating trade deals. And he's gonna come here Washington DC and he's gonna fight to reduce taxes roll back regulations repeal and replace obamacare and make. Americans saying it's fascinating these decisions on it on a day by day basis is not picking winners and losers I mean Sarah Palin calls a crony capitalism. No I I don't think it's picking winners and losers at all what what the what the president elect did with carrier was simply reach out one American to another just asked them. To reconsider he told them we're going to do exactly what we said we reduced in this campaign we're gonna make the American economy more competitive. We're gonna get tougher and smarter on trade deals. And that was changed circumstances from when they made their decision to leave last February and he asked him to reconsider and they did an act. I think that that the message that that sends a cross the American economy to businesses. The may be considering leaving our country is that things are really changing that he's got a president who's gonna fight for jobs. And fight to bring back the American and the president elect is sending that message this morning think it's the reason George candidly why he he won the heartland so decisively mean thirty out of fifty states in this historic mandate. Election mean one more counties than than any candidate on our side since Ronald Reagan the particularly in the heartland we've seen one community after another decimated. Is jobs have been shipped overseas because of more government more taxes more regulation coming up. Question is what is the policy going Ford is a more incentives like it carrier god or is it punishment. And Prez like trump on Twitter this morning's wasn't about six or seven tweets here's the heart of what he was saying. He saying that any business that leaves our country for another country. Far as its employees built and in fact reflect another country and then thinks will sell its products back in the US without retribution or consequence is wrong. There will be attacks on our seem to be strong border of 35% for these companies won its other products cars. Air condition units it said Rebecca across the border says it producing that Rex nor. Before which is that moving Ford Focus from Michigan to Mexico they're all going to be facing this 35% tariff. Well what what what you're seeing here is a combination a policy it's number one. Is the president elect has already got our team working on Capitol Hill to make sure that. There were reducing taxes renal lower the corporate tax weary repeal and replace obamacare and roll back starting on day one these this. Avalanche of red tape and regulations it's crushing American jobs. But the other piece of that to your point George. Is that president elect is committed to have to changing America's trade sitting on the reported that thirty well governor we're gonna renegotiate NAFTA he's already made that clear got an agreement from president opinion NATO to do just that. He's gonna he's gonna put on the table all the tools that are gonna take away the advantages of companies. That for far too long have been pulling up stakes. Leaving American workers behind and then creating products shipping them back and finally that is governor of Indiana you've got that happy. Workers a carrier at of those jobs were saved a mile down the road trip to workers at Rex nor. Losing their jobs and now that companies can be subject to terror. Well I think the way you handle that he is is that we advance policies they're gonna apply to everybody equally. We're gonna create trade policies that take away the advantages. That these multinational corporations have hand in moving jobs overseas now for decades but. We're also going to improve. The economic environment here in the United States were simply with this businessman has become president we'll take that oath of office on January the twentieth. We're gonna work with the congress to lower taxes roll back regulations repeal and replace obamacare and in simply make. The kind of changes in a broad range of areas including education the prison looks very passionate about vocational education across the country. Make the kind of changes that'll simply. Make it possible for American manufacturing to come roaring back. In the heartland and all across talk about more that she's one final question on this president truck and a Stanley sell goods made overseas. Will that continue should they lead by example and bring that manufacturing home now and you know that. That was present lessons recanted. About the fact that even in the course of his business he's seen that there's there's many products that the you simply can't Bonnie in the United States because they're not made here anymore and he's been very very open about that it and I think the policies that you're gonna see this administration advance or just going to be about bringing jobs back. To the United States and we do that we do that by having smarter and tougher trade deals and we've had for a number of decades under successive administrations. But we also do that mostly by creating an environment. I'll Wear the free market can really thrive mean that the truth the matter is high taxes high regulation mandates like. The taxes in obamacare and the rest of his final tomorrow in jobs. Should they bring those jobs Tom I think we'd like to see jobs of every kind come back to United States you just saw the the the recent jobs report came out and and the low unemployment rate is and is in itself deceptive we saw the labor participation rate dropped again it's the lowest since the year after I got out of high school. We we have from we have millions of Americans that are simply out. Of the work force and end up on Tony what president elect Donald Trump. And I are gonna work our hearts out with this congress to make America more attractive for jobs. Of every kind and I think we're in a see this economy come roaring back let's talk about more of those promises he said on Wednesday that you're playing the agenda to keep the promise is president electron made. One of the most prominent prominent one is this wall on the border paid for by Mexico it's still prominent. On the trump website Mexico will pay for the wall how will it happen. Well what we're laying out a very ambitious agenda for the congressman met again this week with the leaders of the house and the senate the president elect and I were on Capitol Hill. Within about a week of the election and to do just that. And it really will all begin with repealing. Obama cares sitting in Iraq and I wanna get to that was first alerted to go to paying for the law but we're gonna get to the process of ending illegal immigration and all begins with border security internal enforcement. In building a wall and you make Mexico pay for an I think there's a variety of ways there's a variety of ways that. That that we can accomplish that the president elect is gonna choose the best way forward we're gonna work with the congress in that regard some of it will be negotiation. You know prison opinion NATO and and and our president elect had a very good he ruled out saying at all well we've but I know about the tweet. But there you know in the course of of renegotiating NAFTA there then there was a are agreeing to renegotiate NAFTA there was an agreement that the border security is critical and important will have those conversations. But you think about the enormous amount of commerce the flows over their borders as there's a whole lot of ways and I I'm absolutely. Confident that our president elect. Is gonna keep his promise to the American people we're gonna secure the border we're gonna build the wall we're gonna end illegal immigration. Once and for all and and we'll find a way to have our neighbors pay for. And obamacare you mentioned that the New York Times is reporting the you're working with congressional leaders on a strategy to repeal immediately but then delay. The replacement in that sixty minutes interview that regulation president elect trump said they were going to be done simultaneously why the change. Well I'm not aware there is change the activities repealing delay strategy is now which are working well a word we're working on now the president elect. Trumps commitment to repeal and replace obamacare it's all gonna begin right out of the gate. By replete repealing this. This disastrous policy that's been killing jobs I mean it's it's on track next year. To see Americans see an average increase in premiums of 25% in states like Arizona a 116%. We really believe to be vitally important in their early days of the congress. With everything else happening in and then confirming cabinet appointments that we keep that promise of the American people. And at the very same time. Through both executive action and working with congressional leaders end. Our need new leadership at HHS that we lay out a framework for an orderly transition. Two replacing a three year transition well I'd I think it's going to be a discussion the president elect will. Will love decide on what's acceptable to him will work with members of congress on that but. As he said in that in that speech on Obama care in Philadelphia he's he wants the American people know there will be an orderly transition away from. This disastrous policy but the first thing we have to do is. Is is pried the enormous weight of Obama care off the national economy we think that'll. That'll create tremendous economic growth in businesses large and small and then sending an orderly. Transition process in place to capture the power of the free market me. The president will it's been very clear we want to give the American people more choices the ability to buy health insurance across state lines. He's health savings accounts. But doing that in a way that dad and doesn't. Doesn't upset the apple Carter create anxiety among Americans about their health care that is what to do about Medicare president of present electron spoke about that. Continuation of the campaign usually said. Every Republican wants to do a big number are on. Social Security. They want to do it on Medicare they wanted to order and Medicaid. And we can't do that and it's not fair to the people that have been paying in for years. But the president's nominee for health secretary and speaker of the house foreign you in the past have voted for changing Medicare from moving from a defined benefit. Team for pampering subsidies paper private insurance is that on the table. Though that the the people that are joining our administration are signing up for the president elect's agenda so no changes in Medicare do well look. I think president elect from made it very clear in the course of the campaign that as president were to keep our promises and Social Security. And Medicare with regard to Medicaid though I will tell you there's a real opportunity. There's a real opportunity as we repeal. And replace obamacare. To do exactly with the president elect also set on the campaign and that is. Block granting Medicaid back to the states allow states to do what Indiana was able to do in part of the last couple years. And that is innovate we actually we actually people on Medicaid first time in the history the program. That actually have to to make a monthly contribution to health savings account to receive full benefits we wanna give states even greater flexibility. In innovating and creating the kind of health care solutions that work for their population they said present electron has been quite active on Twitter. Including this week into the beginning of this week that we which I wanna show. Right now but the popular vote he said in addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide. I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted. Illegally that that claim is groundless there's no evidence to back it up. Isn't responsible for present elect to make false statements like that well and look I think getting four years ago the Pew Research Center found that there were. Millions of inaccurate voter registrations are everything authored the study said it is not any evidence about what happened in this election any evidence of voter fraud bank I think what. You know what is what what is historic he years that. Our president elect 130 of fifty states he won more counties than any candidate on our side. Since Ronald Reagan and and the fact that some partisans who are frustrated with the outcome of the election and disappointed with the outcome of the election are pointing. To the popular vote Ike and I can assure you if this had been about the popular vote. Donald Trump and I've been campaigning a whole lot more in Illinois California and new York and no one has questioned the victory certainly I'm not question victory I'm asking just. About the tweet which I want to say that he said. He would've won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally that statement is false why is responsible to make it. Well I think that eggs the president elect just wants call. To called attention the fact that that that there has been evidence over over many years of house nominee for head and in and expressing that reality Pew Research Center found. Evidence of that four years ago is certainly think certainly his right but. You know there is his right to make false statements well it's it's his right to express his opinion as pres elect the United States I think one of the things it's refreshing. About our president elect. And the in this one of the reasons why I think he made such an incredible connection. Who with people all across this country is because he. He tells you what's on his mind the white is a refresh this heartache false statements well look dirty side I don't know that that is a false statement Georgian needed to use the simple fact is that there there's no evident there is there is evidence historic evidence from the Pew Research Center. Of of a voter fraud the second place we are we're in the process of investigating. Irregularities in the state of Indian who were leading up to this election that's. The fact that voter fraud exists is. Which can use a variety and is they have facts in this country provide any evidence to back up that state well but look I think he's expressed his opinion on that these were he's entitled to express his opinion on that and I think the American people I think the American people find it very refreshing that they have a a president who will tell them. What's on his mind and I think I think that connect connection that he made the course whether it's true or not reflective of that from the gonna tell what. He's gonna say what he believes to be true man in and I know that he's always gonna speak. Speaking in that way as president. General Petraeus is coming up as he said he your your transition team said he's being considered for secretary of state. I the FBI director chose not to prosecute Secretary Clinton. And told congress would General Petraeus did was actually worse with classified information than what Secretary Clinton let's take a look. Clearly intentional conduct knew what he was doing was a violation of the law huge amounts of information that even if you couldn't proving who it did raise the inference that he did it. An effort to obstruct justice. Have you responded that. Well first I respond by saying the General David Petraeus is an American hero. I first met him down range in Iraq when he was in command of the 101 airborne I saw the way that he. He Marshal the resources in the plan to develop the surge and and achieved an American success at the end of the last administration. In Iraq he's a man of enormous talents but. But keep me made mistakes. And he paid the consequences. Of those mistakes. It would be difficult for any other person in the State Department and security clearance. After this so why isn't this disqualifying for secretary of state and he can think. The person who will make the decision. About our next fixture status the president elect and healed. He'll factor the totality. Of General Petraeus is career in making that decision but. I can assure you that. The process of assembling this Kevin has truly been inspire the what. What I think the American people are saying is not only a record pace this is this is the fastest assembly of a cabinet. In the last forty years even even as that's the sitting vice president George Herbert Walker Bush didn't assemble a cabinet has quit wish president elect Donald Trump is. And whether B General Petraeus or Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani or senator Bob Corker John Bolton or others who may be added to the list with what people are seeing. Is an extraordinary. Capacity of an executive to bring the broadest range of people around him. I have to be in these meetings storage to see the way he asked the and spins incisive questions he gets straight to the point streak to the issue I'm just. I'm very confident as he's done so far that are our president elect is gonna continue to assemble a cabinet. People that will be the best for that position and it'll be a team that'll makes us air America strong and prosperous exhilarated in the middle of a it's incredibly humbling and incredibly. Exciting for my little family be apart of a history that I truly do believe can make America great again mr. vice pres elect thanks for coming in this morning thank you George.

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