Transcript for Parent who lost child to school shooting says focus needs to be on 'prevention'
Fred Guttenberg joins us. He's the founder of Orange ribbons for Jaime. Named for his daughter, Jaime, was killed in the parklannicole Hockley. Her son, Dylan, was killed in Newtown. Fred, let me begin with you. You just heard governor Patrick there. You heard what he said. What is your response? Um, I think those are the most idiotic comments I have ever heard regarding gun safety. Let me be clear. He should be removed from office for his failure to want to protect the citizens of Texas. To hear him continue to make the argument after ten people died in his state that guns are not the issue, is simply a crock. I was in Texas two weeks ago to be across the street from the NRA convention and protest it. The highlight item at their convention is a gun that folds up to look like a cell phone. That is not designed for any reason other than to spread more death on the streets of this country. And regarding the second amendment. I'm pretty sure the framers of the constitution would predict the day that we would have guns that look like cell phones. I'm here at what was supposed to be my daughter's dance recital. They're honoring her memory instead of having my daughter dance. For that man to make those moronic comments, unacceptable. Your rage is very clear. Nicole, thank you for also joining us this morning. I know you have been working hard since Newtown. Ever since your son, Dylan, was killed, trying to come up with solutions. There's a lot of frustration at the national level. You say there is progress at the local level addressing the problems. There has been progress at a local and national level. Woo -- where we're teaching, how do you recognize the signs of someone who is at risk? It's about prevention. What we heard from the lieutenant governor in terms of hardening the schools. I'm not saying that's unimportant. That we shouldn't be looking at the school security. But this was a hard school already. There was a lot of safety measures in place. Armed school resource officers. Plans for active shooter drills. There was a lot of activity already happening. And I don't think that we're focusing -- we're focusing on the wrong thing here. School control of gun safety measures. That is a mitigation. That is not prevention. We need to focus on the kids inside the schools. While I does agree with the vast majority of what the lieutenant governor said, I do agree we have a problem where we devalue life. And the fact that this shooting has not received a significant amount of coverage. The fact that this shooting is not seeing a significant amount of action. That is devaluing life. Ten people are dead. Not going back to their families. That's what we need to focus on. It's not about religion. Not about values. It's not just about guns. It's about guns and it's about people. And while I agree with him that access and safety, those things need to be held accountable, this shooter took the guns from his home, and therefore action and accountability needs to take place. We need to think about what do we need to do to stop people before they reach the point of picking up a firearm with the intent of hurting themselves or someone else? That's not about school security. That's about prevention. I saw you nodding your head to a lot of that. It's clear you don't suffer from the problem of desensitization. The problem of numbing right now. Your rage is painfully clear. What do you say to the rest of us who are getting all too used to this? You know, George, the morning that the breaking news on this happened, I was reading the news reports of the shooting at the trump hotel. The shootings keep on happening. And Nicole's 100% right. This is not just about guns. It's not just about school safety. It's not just about mental health. It's everything. And the problem is when these shootings happen, the crowd that doesn't want to blame guns, they want to talk about everything else but guns. Folks like Nicole and I, we want to talk about all of it. Because to solve this problem, you must. You need to talk about all these things if you want to limit the incidents, stop these incidents. You have to be realistic. These incidents are happening. We have to limit the casualties when they do. And I'm glad Nicole brought up the home. I have heard some in Texas, and some out of Texas say, all of the gun safety measures proposed could not have stopped this. Well, you know what? Maybe we need to go fur. Because this happened where this kid took the guns from his dad. Responsible gun ownership should require, by law, that parents lock up their weapons so their kids can't take them. And if the weapons are removed from a home and used this way, the parent needs to be held equally accountable. We need to address everything. This isn't an either/or problem. We need to be honest. We need to deal with it all. There are people proposing more radical measures. Nicole, I was struck by this tweet. Arne Duncan, the former education secretary retweeting, a feet from a man named Peter Cunningham who said, maybe it's time for America's 50 million school parents to pull their kids out of school until we have better gun laws. Mr. Duncan called this brilliant and tragically necessary. Well, I think that is one option. I can certainly understand a parent's fear for sending their child to school every day given how often these things are happening. And for that one student that I heard after Santa fe saying, I wasn't surprised. It was almost expected this would happen here. If that's the environment our kids are now being brought up in, then we're doing something very tragically wrong. If we want parents to pull their kids out of school until we have better solutions in place, that's an option. What are we doing when they're walking down the street? What are we doing when they're going to the mall? Or to the movie theater? This is not just about school shootings. This is about shootings everywhere. This is happening in every community every day. There are actions we can take. Prayers are important. Talking about this is very important. Looking at issues around violence is important. But, there are actions that we can take right now at a community level. Teaching each other what to do. But also, at a state and federal level in terms of ensuring we have complementary policy to ensure when we see someone who needs help, that we're ensuring they don't have access to fire arms. That's what we need to act on right now. Nicole Hockley, Fred Guttenberg, thank you for your time this morning. Thank you, George. Thank you, George.
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